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Lattman
02-16-2007, 06:13 PM
Hi,

I know this is a stupid question, but in the past I used links wizard to retrieve 1500 links from dmoz, I'm working on having them add me to their site, but most don't have a links page. I was wondering if I was better off removing them and keeping only the reciprocal ones or leaving them there...

Thx

Shunny
02-16-2007, 10:49 PM
In my view non-reciprocal and reciprocal linking is about the same. That is one way links to your site versus...reciprocal linking.

SkGold
02-17-2007, 10:58 AM
Hi,

I know this is a stupid question, but in the past I used links wizard to retrieve 1500 links from dmoz, I'm working on having them add me to their site, but most don't have a links page. I was wondering if I was better off removing them and keeping only the reciprocal ones or leaving them there...

Thx

Any external link is decreasing your Google page rank, even if it is receptional. (Some of the internal links do it as well.) I guess you can’t avoid it if you have a directory.

Please remember that it is nothing to do with your positions in SERPs.

Lattman
02-17-2007, 07:08 PM
What's the use of using esyndicate if it's going to decrease my page rank? I don't get it? My goal is not to have a directory, it's to increase page rank...

Greg
02-17-2007, 07:26 PM
What's the use of using esyndicate if it's going to decrease my page rank? I don't get it? My goal is not to have a directory, it's to increase page rank...

Don't know why you bought a directory script if your goal "is not to have a directory"? :confused:

Anyhow take a look at this thread.
http://www.esyndicat.com/forum/about8697.html

Loren
02-17-2007, 07:29 PM
What's the use of using esyndicate if it's going to decrease my page rank? I don't get it? My goal is not to have a directory, it's to increase page rank...

How about just implimenting good SEO techniques and waiting, darn sight cheaper!;)

Lattman
02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
One of my friends told me about esyndicate as having helped him rank #2 with google so I gave it a try. I thought that I could avoid manual entry by using links wizard...I'm now manually adding reciprocal links and have about 40 of them...I was wondering if I should remove the non-reciprocal links and just leave the reciprocal ones...

I'm rather confused, I was told that linking would lep me rank, from what I gather you guys are telling me the oposite..

Can someone please clarify?

Thx

SkGold
02-18-2007, 01:56 AM
I'm rather confused, I was told that linking would lep me rank, from what I gather you guys are telling me the oposite..

Can someone please clarify?
Linking is going to help you but… Yes, there are several but’s.
Only quality links will help you to rank better. And what is a quality link?
1. Link to your website that coming from site related to your niche.
2. Links to your website that coming from trusted (by SE) sites.
3. Usually one-way link, not receptional. Receptional links becoming less and less trusted by SE, especially Google.
4. Links to your website that coming from content related to your niche. I mean when it is coming naturally from the middle of some kind of article related to your niche.

These are most important points of quality links.:wink:

I will tell you one of the SEO secrets how Directory can help you to rank better. :)
You need to have 2 sites. One is your moneymaking site and another directory.
Now you have several choices:
1. One way is to ask people to give the link to your moneymaking site instead of receptional link to your directory.
2. Another way is to have receptional links with your directory, then make the article in your directory and link from this article to your moneymaking site.
Both ways will give you one-way link to your moneymaking site and help to rank this site better.

I hope it will clear for you some stuff. :wink:

Lattman
02-18-2007, 03:42 AM
Hi! Thx for clarifying everything out to me and taking the time...You've been of great assistance!

One last question, how do I link from my article to my money making site? Sorry, I'm rather new to this and have been putting a lot of time with not much results.

Linking is going to help you but… Yes, there are several but’s.
Only quality links will help you to rank better. And what is a quality link?
1. Link to your website that coming from site related to your niche.
2. Links to your website that coming from trusted (by SE) sites.
3. Usually one-way link, not receptional. Receptional links becoming less and less trusted by SE, especially Google.
4. Links to your website that coming from content related to your niche. I mean when it is coming naturally from the middle of some kind of article related to your niche.

These are most important points of quality links.:wink:

I will tell you one of the SEO secrets how Directory can help you to rank better. :)
You need to have 2 sites. One is your moneymaking site and another directory.
Now you have several choices:
1. One way is to ask people to give the link to your moneymaking site instead of receptional link to your directory.
2. Another way is to have receptional links with your directory, then make the article in your directory and link from this article to your moneymaking site.
Both ways will give you one-way link to your moneymaking site and help to rank this site better.

I hope it will clear for you some stuff. :wink:

SkGold
02-18-2007, 10:00 AM
...how do I link from my article to my money making site?
Okay, let see it from example. Let say, I created an article about Internet Marketing and Search Engine Optimization and I have the following paragraphs in my article.

First paragraph:
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No matter how revolutionary your product or service is, unless it is backed by a well-done Internet Marketing (http://www.skgold.com)strategy, it is as good as being non-existent.
---------------------------

Second paragraph:
---------------------------
Most Search Engine Optimization (SEO) (http://www.skgold.com/self-seo-marketing.htm) experts teach you how to optimize a web page for good search engine ranking, but not everybody tell you what you must NOT do in order to avoid over optimization penalty.
---------------------------

Now I have 2 links from these paragraphs to my site. These links are quality links because they are anchor text links, have my most important keywords and coming from the article related to my niche.

Please remember your article should be indexed by SE and cannot be in supplemental index, otherwise the links will be almost useless.

I hope this helps.

Lattman
04-06-2007, 05:04 PM
Hi Buddy, I was wondering if I should get ride of my directory all together along with eSyndicate and just create an article?

Thx

Okay, let see it from example. Let say, I created an article about Internet Marketing and Search Engine Optimization and I have the following paragraphs in my article.

First paragraph:
---------------------------
No matter how revolutionary your product or service is, unless it is backed by a well-done Internet Marketing (http://www.skgold.com)strategy, it is as good as being non-existent.
---------------------------

Second paragraph:
---------------------------
Most Search Engine Optimization (SEO) (http://www.skgold.com/self-seo-marketing.htm) experts teach you how to optimize a web page for good search engine ranking, but not everybody tell you what you must NOT do in order to avoid over optimization penalty.
---------------------------

Now I have 2 links from these paragraphs to my site. These links are quality links because they are anchor text links, have my most important keywords and coming from the article related to my niche.

Please remember your article should be indexed by SE and cannot be in supplemental index, otherwise the links will be almost useless.

I hope this helps.

SkGold
04-10-2007, 08:06 PM
Hi Buddy, I was wondering if I should get ride of my directory all together along with eSyndicate and just create an article?
Thx

I don’t want to scare out eSyndicat customers. eSyndicat script is very good for directory purpose.

But if your purpose to build the links to your moneymaking site and get good positions in serps, there are a lot of much better methods than directory script.

To get the best results you need to combine all (or at least the biggest portion) SEO techniques together. Just an article may not help you as well.

I can’t really suggest you something, as I know nothing about your business.

Simon Gooffin
04-11-2007, 09:14 AM
Any external link is decreasing your Google page rank, even if it is receptional. (Some of the internal links do it as well.) I guess you can’t avoid it if you have a directory.
AFAIK google bot does not understand redirects. So there are two ways to avoid this - use redirects instead of direct links to those sites and have no follow attribute in links. Though I'm not sure about no-follow :(
But here another issue arises. There are not so many webmasters who want to have a listing from this kind of directories. They get no benefit from this link except minimal traffic

Lattman
04-11-2007, 02:49 PM
Here's my web site in order to give you a better understanding of what we do..

www.global-uniforms.com

I don’t want to scare out eSyndicat customers. eSyndicat script is very good for directory purpose.

But if your purpose to build the links to your moneymaking site and get good positions in serps, there are a lot of much better methods than directory script.

To get the best results you need to combine all (or at least the biggest portion) SEO techniques together. Just an article may not help you as well.

I can’t really suggest you something, as I know nothing about your business.

Sai_dallas
04-12-2007, 03:34 AM
What's the use of using esyndicate if it's going to decrease my page rank? I don't get it? My goal is not to have a directory, it's to increase page rank...

submit your site to other directories and blogs that would increase your PR.

if you only allow reciprocal links that should do good.

Thanks

SkGold
04-12-2007, 04:53 PM
Here's my web site in order to give you a better understanding of what we do..

www.global-uniforms.com
I did quick look on your site.
Well, your site design (coding) is absolutely not SE-friendly.
Take a look here (http://www.gritechnologies.com/tools/spider.go) to see what your site will look like in search-engine results.

As your site design is not SE-friendly it will never appear in Serps naturally.
It will be very hard to achieve good positions in organic serps with site design this way. Everything is possible, but it will be very hard and just natural and free SEO techniques will not help in your situation.

If you really want to get good positions in organic Serps, first I would seriously think about SE-friendly redesign of your site. Then you may implement search-engine optimization techniques like keywords research (to find out what people in your niche looking for), content creation and optimization for your keywords, links building (anchor text links with your keywords) and so on…