Another Google Question

[snerd]

Howdy Ho............

So, I have 5 sites up and running with eSyndiCat 1.2 Pro. They have all been up for the same amount of time, about 6-8 weeks. The one I've worked on the most has only two (2) pages indexed in Google, while the other 4 have maybe a hundred (100) pages indexed each! I just don't get it. Is there something in the least-indexed site that I've messed up? Coding or otherwise? It's all Greek to me how Google decides to index deeper into one site than another.

The 2 indexed-pages site is:
http://www.oklahoma-online.com/

and the 100 indexed-pages sites are:
http://www.allthelinks.info/
http://www.findalink.info/
http://www.lotsalinks.info/
http://www.mostlinks.info/

If anyone can take a look and maybe give me some ideas as to why the first site isn't getting indexed, I would sure appreciate it.

Thanks!

[Ryan]

The site is old, was it at one time banned by google? That's the only thing I see myself. Have you created sitemaps for all of them and submitted that to google?

Also, do you have any high ranking PR sites linking to the others instead of the first?

[snerd]

No idea if it was ever banned. It was parked for a few years is all I know. Yep, I have sitemaps for all the sites, submitted and being used it looks like. I'm not sure on the high PR linking......... I've been submitting all the sites at once to many many directories.

Maybe I can try to contact Google and inquire about this?

[Ryan]

Good luck with that one (contacting google). Just wait, it will happen. Try to get a higher PR site to link to yours and keep putting the site out there. It will get indexed at some point.

Do you post on forums anywhere else? Make sure you have it in your sig there.

[Sai_dallas]

http://www.oklahoma-online.com/

This is not a banned site

I got my site around the same time

http://www.DollarBackRealty.com

It is in the same situation as yours.

If it is banned you don't even get one link to your site.

Thanks
Sai

[subseo]

Google is changing. It's much harder to get a directory indexed than a nice general website (my feeling, might be wrong). Directories are not what it used to be.

Get good links from quality websites, and some deep links, too. Links from other directories are not completely bad, but nowadays are considered low quality links and will not do much help with indexation.

[Sai_dallas]

I could not find a way to add a link to your directory!

[snerd]

I could not find a way to add a link to your directory!
Who's directory are you referring to? If mine, you need to browse to a category, then choose "Suggest Website" at the top of page.

[snerd]

Just for a follow up.......... I updated the sitemap and resubmitted it. I had to ping it a couple of times, but they finally downloaded it and now I have 13 pages indexed. This could take awhile! :lol:

[Ryan]

Dont be surprised if you lose pages either, it will go up and down, just hope that the overall is it going up :)

[Simon Gooffin]

Hi guys
I'm not sure if I'm right. IMHO google displays indexed page after its own update. He does not display it the same moment its robot crawls it. So it's possible you should wait for the next update and there will be more indexed pages displayed.

I can say from my own experience (we had several problems with esyndicat.com) Google sometimes displayes completely incorrect results. For say I still have some pages displayed that had been deleted months ago. I see supplemental results next to them.

[zeromaster]

There are over 70 data centers for Google alone. Being that said you may see information differently than others.

I had the same problem with google on another site of mine which has nothing to do with esyndicat.com. Same here i redid my site map and finally got google to crawl the whole site. Suggest you check these out might help you

http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

http://rss.scripting.com/

[zeromaster]

Dont be surprised if you lose pages either, it will go up and down, just hope that the overall is it going up :)

LOL how true that is. On my other site I am in the day time around 9th slot on several of my keywords. Night time rolls around and I am 3rd or 4th link...LOL It's all the data centers Google has and of course how well your ISP is routing you that time and day depends on what data center you get from google. IE why you see changes to quickly.

You can view on of my keywords where you live and I will be number ones link. I can view it and will be number 4 and so on.....I believe your time is no doubt better spent doing something else...lol

[snerd]

After the G update, 4 of my new domain directories got PR and have thousands of pages indexed. But the old domain at oklahoma-online "still" has only two pages indexed, and the PR stayed where it was at 1. All sites have sitemaps for G & Y and are crawled constantly.

I figure it has something to do with the old domain being about 9 years old, but sitting parked for a few years.

[djbaxter]

Google, since the Big Daddy update and all the subsequent patches, has been and continues to be a mess. There are several major problems with the database and with their caching, only a few of which have been publicly acknowledged. After Big Daddy, I had large numbers of old pages (no longer existing) from more than a year ago in the index and current pages dropped from the index. That situation is only slowly - very slowly - being reversed. Additionally, the Google site: query is broken.

Check your sites in Yahoo! or MSN Search for a more accurate idea of how your site is doing. Lord knows when Google will get its act together.

[Olaf Lederer]

Check your sites in Yahoo! or MSN Search for a more accurate idea of how your site is doing. Lord knows when Google will get its act together.

why checking yahoo or MSN, from 1000 visits refered by search engines only a few are from yahoo/msn and all others from google, I ask me who is using these search engines...

[Olaf Lederer]

After the G update, 4 of my new domain directories got PR and have thousands of pages indexed. But the old domain at oklahoma-online "still" has only two pages indexed, and the PR stayed where it was at 1. All sites have sitemaps for G & Y and are crawled constantly.

I figure it has something to do with the old domain being about 9 years old, but sitting parked for a few years.
I noticed the same new sites are doing wel and old sites are unchanged (or dropped :kovarstvo2: )

[djbaxter]

That's the sad part, Olaf. For my sites, of all referrals from search engines, 80% plus are still from Google. But if they don't reverse the downward slide of the quality of their search results, they are going to lose that edge. MSN Search is the second biggest for me and it has been slowly but surely gaining - mostly at the expense of Yahoo and AOL search in my stats so far. Don't forget that Microsoft has a HUGE amount of money and resources behind them and the kids today are all on MSN and more familiar with MSN Search than Google - add to that the fact that the majority of new computers come with Windows and MSN Search as the default - and the fact that Vista is coming with integrated search - and Google had better start worrying now.

[Olaf Lederer]

djbaxter,

I know about all the money from MSN for the search market but this search engine must be used from real people.
I think about beginning users:
they begin the search with msn bevause it the default search on a new win install, then they ask people what they use because they find nothing (thats not only because the serp's of MSN are bad) and later they are searching with google.

[djbaxter]

I don't see tyhat trend among young people in North America. I do a fait bit ofv work with teens professionally - they are interested in MSN, games, music, and whatever comes on their computer they tend to stick with unless it doesn't work. If Google works better than MSN Search, it's a reason to switch - and in the past it was true but it clearly is not now.

I'm not predicting the demise of Google yet but it WILL happen if they don't get it fixed soon. They will be simply the next Altavista footnote in the history of search.

[Olaf Lederer]

I'm working with kids too (www.bergtoys.com) but in europe people know the term "google" as of "search the net"... the only thing teens are using here is the msn-messenger :D

[djbaxter]

Interesting. But then certain parts of Europe seem to be more anti-Microsoft (and perhaps more anti-American?) than this part of the world.

Nonetheless, we have had search leaders before - Yahoo!, who had to reinvent themselves, and AltaVista, who disappeared, when something better came along. Google was that something better, at one time. But Google has to understand the lessons of history or be condemned to repeat them, as they say. They are not doing a good job of filtering spam and delivering relevant results at the moment and brand loyalty will not overcome that if it continues much longer.

[Olaf Lederer]

I think there is some movement too, still more people are collecting bookmarks for just in case they need them later. (the del.icio thing) I noticed a lot of new site via stumbleupon websites I never saw before because they are not listed in the SERP's. But at the end you have to ask what kind of people have to visit your website? internet newbies or professional searchers?

For myself as webmaster I can say that a web development related search in Google is the most succesful search ever.
or better for me as Google-junk, what is a world without google :D